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PostSubject: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeSat Dec 04, 2010 2:05 am

Again, a common question that I get asked about what should be done and what shouldn't etc so I will aim to do these for each significant model type.

Firstly, a 2.0 litre WRX....

In std form they are 220bhp give or take and have boost at about 0.9 bar. The boost profile in the std map is pretty tame and doesnt come in til 3500rpm assuming the car is std.

so... choices Smile

1. Keep the car std but just remap for more oomph and better fuel economy.
A full custom remap will bring boost in much earlier and hold higher boost levels for longer but the map will be geared to running much more efficiently ( which is also more economically) as it wont be possible to push too much boost with all 3 cats in place. Typically a Green/K&N/Cosworth air filter and a backbox are fitted at this stage.

This would get the car to about 250-260bhp

2. Sports cat in downpipe - remove centre cat
A full custom remap will bring boost in much earlier due to the lower back pressure and hold much higher boost levels. The remap will also aim to get it running much more efficiently ( which is also more economically).
Typically a Green/K&N/Cosworth air filter and probably a 3 port solenoid are fitted at this stage (on top of the sports cat downpipe and exhaust system).

This would get the car to about 270bhp but a huge boost in torque figures in the mid range.

3. Fully Decat Exhaust
The low back pressure from removing all the cats is now the equivalent of the turbo running around the garden naked shouting "look at me I'm free". A remap is needed to bring it under control and stop overboosting. The remap will bring boost in as smooth as possible and most likely get full boost at around 2700 rpm and hold higher boost right through the rev range. The remap will also aim to get it running much more efficiently ( which is also more economically).
Typically a Green/K&N/Cosworth air filter and probably a 3 port solenoid are fitted at this stage (on top of the decat downpipe and exhaust system).

This would get the car to about 280-290bhp but a huge boost in torque figures in the mid range and transform the way the car drives on the road.

A walbro 255 fuel pump is advisable but not 100% essential.

4. Getting to over 300bhp
A lot of people want to do this, it is a nice bhp figure for the pub afterall. So .. how ? The std TD04 turbo will not do it unless you are on a dyno that reads very optimistically. It will need a turbo off its bigger brother STi version.

There are many many choices of turbo for this VF30, VF34, VF35, VF43, VF48, TD05 16G etc etc but all of these will need a couple of other changes to the car before hitting the mark safely.
- STi Injectors - 550cc (Pinks)
- Walbro 255 pump
- worth changing the uppipe for a decat version while the turbo is off
- probably an STi TMIC although the WRX will suffice.

It is also advisable to change to NGK PFR7B spark plugs.

There is a lot of info around about the different turbos and what they are capable of - the VF35 makes the best upgrade in my opinion at the moment and should hit a nice safe 320-330bhp. This is pretty much an ideal level for the WRX keeping it within the capabilities of the engine, gearbox and clutch.

Some other info:
- a vent to atmosphere dump valve will not improve the performance but if you must fit one for the sound then stick to a good make - forge have always been good from what I have seen. (Baileys are less so)
- a FMIC is not needed at this stage and tbh is always the wrong mod to do on a WRX.
- an induction kit will most likely not improve performance as the std airbox is very good. If you do want more induction noise then go for a cold air induction kit such as the K&N typhoon where the filter is located away from engine bay heat.

Anyway ... hope that is useful.
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 19, 2010 8:45 am

ive been told that you cant re map an early wrx mines a 1996 jap import has a dawes device, K and N, and no cats

it is just under 1 bar and has 278 hp. i had to turn dawes device down due to fuel cut problems now ok

do you think that the ecu needs a re map and setting up due to a very minor but so annoying misfire or something it might

be somthing else dont know.

after reading this article at the top about.

(so... choices

1. Keep the car std but just remap for more oomph and better fuel economy.
A full custom remap will bring boost in much earlier and hold higher boost levels for longer but the map will be geared to running much more efficiently ( which is also more economically) as it wont be possible to push too much boost with all 3 cats in place. Typically a Green/K&N/Cosworth air filter and a backbox are fitted at this stage.)

would this be poss to do to my early car or somethink else

thanks for any help
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 19, 2010 8:46 am

No Andy your ecu can not be remapped.
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeSun Dec 19, 2010 11:17 am

It can be remapped with the small additional of a mappable daughterboard - ESL board.

I would also suggest fitting a later map sensor so that we could run slightly high boost and not have issues with fuel cut.

It can also be mapped as a mafless or maf-based system.
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 20, 2010 12:14 pm

sounds possible could you give me a ball park figure of cost just so ive got some idear

how to explane it to the lovely WIFE dunno

i dont want to high power just a bit more but reliable and a bit of economy

and where are you based
thanks andy
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeMon Dec 20, 2010 1:34 pm

flying banana wrote:
sounds possible could you give me a ball park figure of cost just so ive got some idear

how to explane it to the lovely WIFE dunno

i dont want to high power just a bit more but reliable and a bit of economy

and where are you based
thanks andy

ESL board supplied, fitted and mapped is £550.

I travel all over and am down in that area every 2 or 3 weeks generally.
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 21, 2010 11:19 am

flying banana wrote:
sounds possible could you give me a ball park figure of cost just so ive got some idea

how to explane it to the lovely WIFE dunno



"Car's F**ked....."


Wife - "REALLY"


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Wife - "what does it need and how much?"



"New ECU... between £500 and £1k"



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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 21, 2010 12:55 pm

yea like its ever been that easy rofl rofl
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 21, 2010 1:16 pm

easy.. My wife from tiewaand she no understand king
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 22, 2010 12:46 am

Alley Motorsport wrote:
easy.. My wife from tiewaand she no understand king

I hear you can upgrade those for £500 - £1000
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeWed Dec 22, 2010 11:03 am

thanks for the info i will have to do a little saving but i will keep that in mind
does sound good
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PostSubject: Re: Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX   Typical Upgrade Path - 2.0 WRX I_icon_minitimeTue Dec 28, 2010 1:52 am

Tiny Tim wrote:
Alley Motorsport wrote:
easy.. My wife from tiewaand she no understand king

I hear you can upgrade those for £500 - £1000

bargain Smile
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